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Old June 18th, 2008, 06:30 AM     krighton is offline   #1
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Default About to hit level 45.....feat respec question...

i primarily solo (99.9% or so)....what feat spec gives me the best bang for my buck..right now i'm reanimation so pretty much do the hide and send in pets, hoping nothing comes up from behind me....is Nightfall survivable at this level if i get 2 or 3 mobs at once? I've heard alot about despoil and wanted to check it out, not sure i want to pay for a feat respec if i have to switch right back in case it doesn't do as advertised.

also Reanimation allows me to take mobs a couple levels over mine....if i get adds that see me, it's over and my health plummets pretty fast and usually end up running or dying.

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Old June 18th, 2008, 07:20 AM     r3strict3dd is offline   #2
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i primarily solo (99.9% or so)....what feat spec gives me the best bang for my buck..right now i'm reanimation so pretty much do the hide and send in pets, hoping nothing comes up from behind me....is Nightfall survivable at this level if i get 2 or 3 mobs at once? I've heard alot about despoil and wanted to check it out, not sure i want to pay for a feat respec if i have to switch right back in case it doesn't do as advertised.

also Reanimation allows me to take mobs a couple levels over mine....if i get adds that see me, it's over and my health plummets pretty fast and usually end up running or dying.
go nightfall, use despoil on all your pet control slots except one, use a corruptor, that one pet control slot will save your ass a lot with the emergency fear, or be very very useful and helpful by using death eater.

you can easily go into 3-4 mobs your level, soul frost + blasphemous ruin + pest soul swam + decay them and they'd die, if not then add in another blas. ruin.

2-3 mobs is pretty easy as well if you don't feel like aoe'ing them, just dot em all up and do some nukes


your survivability goes up the roof with nightfall because of the personal damage and utility it offers



on emergency situations when I pull WAY to many mobs or something, I tend to use death eater (at lvl 40 it boosts my hp and max hp by over 240, and gives me a pretty good heal over time) then pop a pot, then resummon corruptor and aoe fear if i have to, most likely not though because the pot + death eater gives me massive healing and hp to kill the mobs




as nightfall you can still kill mobs some levels above yours, and even multiple ones, you just have to tear them apart fast, which isn't hard with nightfall, if your hp drops too fast you can always kite them with dots

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Old June 18th, 2008, 09:01 AM     khrathx is offline   #3
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yeh kinda what he said

with nightfall you kill so fast that you go from worrying about adds, to running around looking for as many as you can get so that you'll get more xp when they all die.

Here's a SS of me last night at lvl 40, I gathered up seven lvl 43 wolves. Unfortunately, lucky #7 ran up right after the first pulse of PSS went off, so he didn't die when the rest did and managed to kill me....but still, having time to gather that many mobs, and killing six mobs that are 3 levels above you, with one PSS....I let the pic speak for itself. Those chain xp bonuses are sweet.

http://penguin.chilly.net/~khrath/images/aexp.gif
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Old June 18th, 2008, 09:13 AM     cromulantkeith is offline   #4
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Yep, despoil the soul all the way. Despoil is way better than UH, which was the main push to go reanimation before. Now with despoil, you can do INSANE PSS aoeing.

After despoil, you can go back into reanimation for the defensive bonus spells, as well as UH. I'll probably do that, and respec at 70 (or maybe 65, since I won't want to despoil anymore once I get archmagus).
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Old June 18th, 2008, 10:04 AM     munkeypants is offline   #5
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Nightfall is fine at that level, but at 65 you'll want to respec to mostly Reanimation for AoE grinding.
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Old June 18th, 2008, 10:15 AM     ciphon is offline   #6
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i primarily solo (99.9% or so)....what feat spec gives me the best bang for my buck..right now i'm reanimation so pretty much do the hide and send in pets, hoping nothing comes up from behind me....is Nightfall survivable at this level if i get 2 or 3 mobs at once? I've heard alot about despoil and wanted to check it out, not sure i want to pay for a feat respec if i have to switch right back in case it doesn't do as advertised.

also Reanimation allows me to take mobs a couple levels over mine....if i get adds that see me, it's over and my health plummets pretty fast and usually end up running or dying.
You should be going for DTS and Unholy hands. I'm wondering why nobody here is mentioning this... And always have Healing pots on you. If you go for unholy hands you will also get Grim hunger which at level 44 if your doing aoe pulls which you should, was healing me for about 30hp (7 per mob) a pulse of my aoes.

This is my personal build - I call it Melting Hands.

http://www.conanarmory.com/feat.aspx...efef2e2f3af35:

I plan to eventually be here.

http://www.conanarmory.com/feat.aspx...ef4ef2e2fe2f16

This build causes sersious dmg. I currently run with all 5 of my pet points used up by DTS. I don't need CC. Next target for me to get is unnatural dexterity, and I am set for aoe grinding.
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Old June 18th, 2008, 10:21 AM     cromulantkeith is offline   #7
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I think unholy hands has lost it's place as the king of AoE. PSS has totally overshadowed it now. It still has it's uses (pulls, allowing 1 tick for the dot, then switching to PSS).

The problem is, for all the feat points to get to it, I'd much rather dig deeper in nightfall, or access some mage general feat stuff.

I see the reason to go reanimation is more for the defensive bonus feats on the way to UH, not so much for UH itself anymore.

Once the shields in the mage tree get fixed, I don't see any point in going reanimation sub-65.

Post 65, I'd assume that feated archmaguses are still the way to go, but who knows, maybe PSS and liche form are so insane that it's better to go that way instead.
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Old June 18th, 2008, 10:39 AM     ciphon is offline   #8
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I think unholy hands has lost it's place as the king of AoE. PSS has totally overshadowed it now. It still has it's uses (pulls, allowing 1 tick for the dot, then switching to PSS).

The problem is, for all the feat points to get to it, I'd much rather dig deeper in nightfall, or access some mage general feat stuff.

I see the reason to go reanimation is more for the defensive bonus feats on the way to UH, not so much for UH itself anymore.

Once the shields in the mage tree get fixed, I don't see any point in going reanimation sub-65.

Post 65, I'd assume that feated archmaguses are still the way to go, but who knows, maybe PSS and liche form are so insane that it's better to go that way instead.
Unholy hands is a AOE dot. Then channel is only required if you want to snare or root mobs/people. So you drop UH, and with DTS it ticks for the pretty much the same as PSS, then when mobs/people get close to you, you PSS. Trust me I hit level 44 last night, and my mind was blown with how much dmg this can unleash. Sure its every 45 seconds, but in pvp people were left wondering where the truck is that ran over them.
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Old June 18th, 2008, 10:48 AM     Vorret is offline   #9
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the problem is in PvE there's realy pack of mob that are over 2 soooomeeetimes 3 ... unohly hand is kinda useless.

what I do usually is I run and grab 4-5 mob, blasphemous then pss and another blasph is needed.... haven't respec to NF yet though so I'm missing alot of pss damage from saccing pet point (i guess...)
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Old June 18th, 2008, 10:52 AM     ciphon is offline   #10
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the problem is in PvE there's realy pack of mob that are over 2 soooomeeetimes 3 ... unohly hand is kinda useless.

what I do usually is I run and grab 4-5 mob, blasphemous then pss and another blasph is needed.... haven't respec to NF yet though so I'm missing alot of pss damage from saccing pet point (i guess...)
Ok... that still doesn't change the fact that you can drop UH on whatever group you have around you. Round up the mobs however you want, when they are near you cast UH, cancel the UH channel(the damage dot still keeps going - channeling is only require for snare/root to persist.), go BR, and PSS. Watch everything around you die. Smile you are truly and AoE dmg master.
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