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Old May 19th, 2008, 10:46 AM     AtlasShrugged is offline   #1
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Default FIX for nVidia users with no particle effects/poor performance

Many nVidia graphics card users are having problems with not being able to see spell (particle) effects.

What I did not know until I resolved the problem myself is that not only does the game not look as good as it should, but your FPS is also markedly lowered by this problem. If you're having this problem, try this fix that has worked for others of us:
  • Get Driver Sweeper and the latest nVidia drivers for your version of Windows from the links below first
  • Install Driver Sweeper
  • Go to Add/Remove Programs and Uninstall your current graphics drivers (should be named "NVIDIA Drivers" or similar)
  • Do not reboot if prompted
  • Run Driver Sweeper to remove video drivers selecting ONLY "NVIDIA - Display"
  • Reboot
  • Enter Safe Mode by pressing F8 at Windows boot time
  • Run Driver Sweeper again in Safe Mode selecting ONLY "NVIDIA - Display"
  • Reboot
  • Do not allow Windows to install any drivers at boot time
  • Check in Add/Remove Programs to see if there is an "NVIDIA Drivers" listing, if so repeat the above steps until it is gone.
  • Install latest ForceWare drivers (currently 175.16, linked below)
  • Reboot
Some users have had to do this multiple times and perhaps in slightly different orders to get things straightened out, but it is very worthwhile.

Also, the game uses "particles" for many other effects in the game, if you're having this issue then you are missing a lot of eye candy and your game is performing a lot worse than it should.

EDIT (5/20/08):
A lot of people seem to be having various performance problems with AoC and that is unfortunate. However, this fix is targetted at a specific issue with players not being able to see spell/particle effects on nVidia hardware and does not claim to resolve other performance issues.

AoC is a beautiful game. With higher graphics settings enabled it is demanding on system hardware (GPU, CPU and memory) regardless of how good your machine is. For instance I have 4GB of RAM in my 64-bit Vista machine and it's common for AoC to have allocated 1.25GB of memory and pegged one of my CPU cores at 100%. If you don't have a top-end system it's not a crime; use the performance options, that's what they're there for.

Some people seem to have been able to squeeze a few fps out of the game by cleaning the drivers as described above even though they are seeing spell/particle effects. If you're comfortable with trying this technique in order to experiment with your configuration then by all means do so, you really can't hurt anything.

At present the latest Microsoft Certified (WHQL) drivers from nVidia are 175.16 across all operating systems and these are the drivers I link to below. Some minor confusion has arisen due to people using leaked drivers with version numbers higher than 175.16. Leaked drivers have a spotty performance record in my book and I've shied away from linking them here for that reason. We're trying to solve problems not create them.

Lastly, I have seen a couple of laptop players have a difficult time finding drivers for their hardware if it's more than a couple of years old. Laptops are a special breed; if the nVidia links below do not have a driver for your hardware/OS combination, try your manufacturer's site first. If that fails try LaptopVideo2Go, google and asking here. freak1337 just made a good laptop post in this thread here (http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpos...&postcount=127).

EDIT (5/23/08):
Unfortunately a couple of people have selected their nVidia chipset drivers in addition to their nVidia graphics drivers when using Driver Sweeper. This has rendered their computers unable to boot.

"Chipset" drivers are pieces of software that your operating system (Windows) relies upon to control hardware devices such as your hard disk, networking controller, memory, etc. A device driver "drives" the device for the operating system so that the operating system doesn't have to know every detail of every piece of hardware that could possibly be attached. Logically then, a graphics driver "drives" the graphics card hardware for Windows, and in turn, the game.

The AoC problem has nothing to do with the nVidia chipset drivers and they should not be modified or removed. In order to try and avoid others making this mistake I have added a couple of links to images of the correct and incorrect options selected in Driver Sweeper. I hope that this helps to avoid others creating this problem and I'm sorry for any grief this confusion has caused.

Good luck!

jaf

Driver Sweeper at Guru3D
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1655
CORRECT Driver Sweeper options selected:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3...correctyy7.jpg
INCORRECT Driver Sweeper options selected:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2...correctng5.jpg

Driver Cleaner Pro at Guru3D
A couple of people have had more success with this program than with Driver Sweeper.
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=745

nVidia's Latest WHQL Drivers
Windows XP/XP Pro, Windows XP Media Center Edition 32-bit:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_175.16_whql.html
Windows Vista 32-bit:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvist...5.16_whql.html
Windows Vista 64-bit:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvist...5.16_whql.html

Laptop users with older hardware may need to find their drivers here
http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/

* thanks to damafan for the original list format

Last edited by Famine; February 25th, 2009 at 10:07 PM..
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Old May 19th, 2008, 12:01 PM     Decay is offline   #2
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This Works Great!!! This needs to be stickied.

I tried everything to fix this problem prior to this. I am now running this bitch on high setting with 4X antialiasing and getting awsome FPS.
I used to crash all the time too. I just played for 8 hours strait with great frames, beatiful graffics and zero crash. It's like a new game to me(I played beta for a minute).

This is huge!

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Old May 19th, 2008, 12:08 PM     visualhollywood is offline   #3
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I hop[e this works getting 18 fps avg with 8800 gts sli made me sad
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Old May 19th, 2008, 12:12 PM     evilb0x is offline   #4
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That worked for me.
Getting 30-60 fps in Connals valley, on high with shadows, SM3.0, bloom and 4x AA.

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Old May 19th, 2008, 12:29 PM     davidmp is offline   #5
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Please post link for the 175.16 beta driver can't find it.
Thanks
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Old May 19th, 2008, 12:42 PM     AtlasShrugged is offline   #6
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Originally Posted by davidmp View Post
Please post link for the 175.16 beta driver can't find it.
Thanks
You'll need to grab the latest driver for your own card and OS by going to nVidia here:

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

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Old May 19th, 2008, 12:43 PM     sgtkoolaid is offline   #7
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awesome man. this was bothering the hell of me. thanx for the post. ill do it as soon as i get home. you are awesome, i love youz! lol.

by the way just go to the guru3d.com site they always have the latest WHQL drivers.
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Old May 19th, 2008, 01:36 PM     davidmp is offline   #8
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I have the 8800 ultra running on XP Pro and could not find the 175.16 Beta drivers. Currently have the 175.15 installed now. I am not sure what the particle effects are supposed to look like to check if it is working. I did notice after yesterdays down time my FPS did decrease a bit but the shader setting went from 2 to 3 this might account for the slow down.

I will try again tonight. Did above procedure with the 175.15 drivers.
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Old May 19th, 2008, 01:38 PM     madagent00 is offline   #9
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...also, make sure the particle draw distance is not set to 0m in the video options menu....
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Old May 19th, 2008, 01:39 PM     AtlasShrugged is offline   #10
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davidmp,

175.15 is probably no different... If you're seeing campfires, torches, spell effects from your hands, etc. then it's probably working.

I, however, saw more than a modest fps increase from fixing this issue.

You can get 175.16 for xp here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_175.16_whql.html


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