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Old July 10th, 2009, 05:05 PM     t0ucht0ne is offline   #1
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Hi guys,

There is more then one thread on this topic and instead of trying to post my solution on all of them I thought it just might make more sense to start a new one.

I spent over four hours with nHancer comparing all the different SLI profiles that come with the latest drivers from Nvidia. As many of you are aware you have to turn shadows off because of the horrible flickering that was introduced in patch 1.05 - it seems this only affects SLI and Crossfire users (unfortunately, this fix only applies to people that are using multiple video cards from Nvidia).

First off, you're gonna need to download the program nHancer. You can get it from http://nhancer.com.

A few months ago people that were running SLI started having "flickering icons" when they opened their inventory screen. I was able to solve this by turning off bit 19 in the Age of Conan SLI profile. Unfortunately, this had the side effect of also causing SLI rendering to tank when a person opened up the inventory screen (ie. you'd be at 85 FPS - no problem - and then you open up the inventory screen and you dropped to 30 FPS). But, for me, I'd rather have lower FPS then an epileptic seizure every time I opened my inventory.

Well, now with the new patch, I was getting horrible flickering shadows AND flashing icons in my inventory screen from time to time. I thought turning off bit 19 would solve the problem - but it only did for the inventory screen - shadows were still borked. For the record, the default Age of Conan SLI profile that comes with the latest Nvidia drivers has bit 19, 22 and 25 turned on and all others turned off.

So, turning off bit 19 solved the flashing inventory icons but didn't solve the flickering shadows. It also caused a third issue with FPS tanking when the inventory screen was open. So, this time I turned off bit 22 and left 19 and 25 on. Same problem - flickering shadows and flashing icons. Then I turned off bit 25 and left 19 and 22 on.

SUCCESS! The flickering shadows were gone but there were some performance issues - so I turned on the SLI Indicator Bar and sure enough, the bars weren't fully extended from the top to bottom (which means SLI rendering isn't working at maximum efficiency/capacity).

Well, I have no freakin' idea what each of those bits do - they are undocumented and I've searched all over the internet for some sort of hint on what each one does - even the guy who wrote nHancer has no idea what they do. We only know how Nvidia has "tweaked" each profile based on information they got from the developers of the game (just a guess).

So I did something that no one who has a life would ever think about doing - I actually went through every profile and wrote down all the bits that were turned on with profiles that had the "19" bit set on. I started seeing a pattern - especially with a few older games versus newer games (as it pertains to bit 19). I found a lot of game profiles that were using 19, 22, and 25 just like AOC - but they were all fairly old. So I started comparing all the profiles that were using 19 and 22 but had bit 25 turned off. Almost all of them had another companion bit turned on which suggested to me that if turning bit 19 and 22 on doesn't solve our problem then whatever team writes Nvidia's drivers has others bits meant to work around some idiosyncrasy.

All the profiles that used bit 19 and 22 but DIDN'T use bit 25 - well - I wrote them down.

18, 19, 22
13, 15, 19, 22
13, 15, 18, 19, 22

etc.

So, I tried all of them until I had the performance back that I used to have way back when I first started playing this game.

So, what are the magic numbers?

Load up nHancer, choose the Age of Conan SLI profile, go to the SLI config tab for the profile and enable bits 13, 19, 22 - and make sure you disable bit 25. There should only be checkmarks for 13, 19, 22.

Load up Age of Conan and you'll notice three things:

1) the flickering shadow problem is gone (thanks to turning off bit 25).

2) the inventory screen will no longer make your SLI rendering tank (thanks to bit 13)

3) you will no longer have flashing inventory icons (thanks to leaving bit 19 turned on)

I haven't had Age of Conan run this smooth for quite a while. With a game like Age of Conan where they are constantly releasing patches and updates to the code it would sure be nice if someone was working with Nvidia (and ATI - look at all the messed up Crossfire users) to keep multi-GPU driver profiles up to date. I did notice recently that bit 19 was added to the profile - but that was only 3 or 4 driver revisions ago. Before that it was bit 22 and 25 - so obviously there is some communication going on - but it would be nice in the future if people like me could just play the game and leave nVidia and Funcom to the driver tweaking... nVidia has documentation - none of us do - what took me four hours would take them 5 minutes. I choose bit 13 because it solved the problem - but that doesn't mean it was the best solution. Maybe it will end up causing an issue in some other zone - but hopefully this will be a step in the right direction to getting it corrected where it matters most - NVIDIA DRIVER UPDATES :-)

Anyways, sorry for the long post - I hope I never have to do this again for as long as I live.

Regards,

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Old July 10th, 2009, 05:38 PM     fertrexia is offline   #2
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sweet, I was having this problem the other day and got frustrated and turned off shadows, I nearly disabled SLi, I'll try this out when I get home. Nice work!
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Old July 10th, 2009, 05:53 PM     t0ucht0ne is offline   #3
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sweet, I was having this problem the other day and got frustrated and turned off shadows, I nearly disabled SLi, I'll try this out when I get home. Nice work!
Check this out...

I rebooted and started Age of Conan and everything worked like I described above except that when I opened the inventory screen my FPS tanked. So, I went and disabled bit 13 and wrote the profiles to the registry with nHancer. Then I restarted AoC and it worked again.

So, I have no idea what is going on with that... But, no matter what, if you disable bit 25 you will solve your flickering shadow problem - which is the most important thing.

I wish I new what the best companion bit to 19 was... I can almost guarantee you that it's 18, 15, 13, 9 or 3... Only some engineer in nVidia's driver department knows for sure. * sigh *

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Old July 11th, 2009, 01:23 AM     Prezident is offline   #4
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Thanks for the info again on this. I found that turning bit 19 OFF was the trick for the flickering icons.

I'm also still having to run shadows disabled, because although your trick did seem to fix the flickering of the shadows, when I was running around on my horse, I would get these huge black splotches on my screen that I just couldn't live with.

Anyway, thanks for the write up. It was helpful in at least me figuring out how to solve my flickering icon problems.
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Old July 11th, 2009, 10:06 AM     Bojamijams is offline   #5
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This fixed EVERYTHING for me. You are a GOD man! Woooooooooooooooooooooo!

Funcon needs to post this all over their freaking website and its PATHETIC Funcom, yes you deserve all the blame, that your NVIDIA certified product has these kinds of glitches with no word from you that you even KNOW it exists.
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Old July 11th, 2009, 11:33 AM     Doctahg1 is offline   #6
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This solved one problem but has significantly affected my frame rates unfortuately
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Old July 11th, 2009, 12:03 PM     DeleveledTwink is offline   #7
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Darn shame there is no fix for Crossfire users other than to disable Crossfire or shadows.

The odd thing is ATi had fine shadows with older drivers and had fixed the flickering inventory icon issues.
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Old July 11th, 2009, 12:43 PM     -Halla- is offline   #8
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this works for Hybrid SLI as well? I have an 280GTX and an 9300GT for Physx.
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Old July 11th, 2009, 01:40 PM     t0ucht0ne is offline   #9
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Prezident,

Can you tell me if turning on bit 9 instead of bit 13 works for you?

Bojamijams,

Glad it worked for you, man!

Doctahg1,

(BLOODLINE RULES!) - Yes, I've noticed some FPS issues after playing most of the day and night yesterday depending on which zone I was in. What we really need is nVidia and Funcom to give us SLI and Crossfire users some extra love and make a phone call to each other and optimize the profile.

Azita-Halla,

As for hybrid SLI - I have no idea - you'll just need to try it out. I suspect it would work the same way. Same profiles, right?

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Old July 11th, 2009, 02:34 PM     Axles is offline   #10
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I'd like to add to this. After changing to your settings i get worse fps then using a single card and alot of Graphical freezes. Single GPU seems to be the best bet until Funcom can fix the client. Granted it's using my SLI and i see it by looking at the SLI bar from Nvidia control panel.



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