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    Quote Originally Posted by -Shink- View Post
    Well i don't bind anything extra on the mouse(use it mostly for moving) and just use the keyboard a lot.What is all this fuss about ?And while i don't "mouse click" anything i remember some "omgnoobclickers" that used to destroy the "iameliteandbindeverything" crowd in performance as far as pve goes.In then end it is what you are comfortable with.Pvp is a different story because it needs a different approach regarding movement to be effective.
    Well totally agree.
    In PvE it makes low to no difference.
    Even clicking would be totally viable imo, I know clickers who perform really their class at its very best on PvE side.
    Depend a bit on class though (by just clicking on some class you could do "very well" but not "the best you can do" imo), but ofc a pro-clicker in PvE is always better than a bad "Iboundeverythingonmyshiny127buttonsnaga" player .
    But on PvP good binds are essential imho.

    And mine was not a critic to anyone playstyle, just some personal feeling considerations.
    What I do is ok for me, but could be wrong for other players ofc.
    Last edited by Korando-AoC; 29th April 2014 at 08:12.
    Retired nab.. once it was Korando (PvP 10 BS), Andromaeda (PvP 10 Sin), Calore (PvP 10 Demo) and minions...

  2. #92

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    i just have some buffs on mouse keybinds. I'm more comfortable using keyboard (even for turning if i'm drinking coffee/beer). oldschool-ability of hitting any key even blindfolded and 3 promille drunk :P

  3. #93

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    I have macroed the buffing routine on my Demo because then I can drink some beer while waiting for all the buffs to complete casting.

  4. #94

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    Now that's a good idea, considering how many buffs we need to get a Demo to tip top shape.

    @ Maly
    As soon as people start to forget this idea about "balancing". Players will probably complain once their pvp specced Caveman gets killed by a Jedi with a Holy Hand Grenade +5.
    Make Hyboria raid again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shax84 View Post
    Left Shax alone in Guild City while I was out for a while. Macroed the WoF button with repeating on 9,5 sec delay. The result with blank feat tree was:

    WoF crit chance 19% (4019 hits / 949 crits)
    Warlord crit chance 10% (1909 hits / 224 crits)

    When I got back, I added points down to Improved Waves of Flame and Fury of the Underworld:

    WoF crit chance 24% (1646 hits / 532 crits)
    Warlord crit chance 11% (817 hits / 110 crits)

    So, 5 points in Fury of the Underworld seems not worth it, while Improved WoF is working as intended.
    A little update on this. Due to some strange numbers I noticed in the parser I did a bit of testing on my own. Let the cacodemon wail on the dummies in the guild cits for half an hour each with the following builds (the builds should have no influence on the result except for the Fury of the Underworld talent, I included them in case I missed something):

    Without Fury of the Underworld http://goo.gl/B9hWPT: 1128 hits, 77 crits, 6,82% crit rate
    With Fury of the Underworld http://goo.gl/Ke2PTB: 808 hits, 160 crits, 19,80% crit rate

    Seems something has changed since Shax's last test run.

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    Or it could be that the Warlord is not affected by the feat in the same way, since you tested with Cacodemon, and I with Warlord? *runs off to gc and doing test for comparison*

  7. #97

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    I just checked my last T4 raid and I got to 1220 hits with 234 crits 19% crit
    and some others with 19-20% crit
    allways with caco and feated fury of the underworld.

    and the pet is a major dmg source for free (also you need to get down somehow and those 5 points are well spent in my opinion)

  8. #98

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    About 10 minutes each test, is more than enough to see the difference of what should be 10%...

    For the record, Shax has 20,1% crit chance.

    Cacodemon with Fury of the Underworld feated: http://i.imgur.com/TLkYieI.png
    Warlord with Fury of the Underworld feated: http://i.imgur.com/LnI1Zmy.png
    Cacodemon without Fury of the Underworld feated: http://i.imgur.com/A02s5X1.png
    Warlord without Fury of the Underworld feated:http://i.imgur.com/1kxm656.png

    It does indeed seem like they have ninjafixed it!
    Last edited by Shax84; 6th September 2014 at 20:23.

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    However, is it worth feating it? There is not much damage improvement on the parses where the crit chances are higher for the pet. 10 dps for the Cacodemon and 3 dps for the Warlord, though the spread isn't necessary correct here and there is a much bigger difference on crits on Cacodemon where I was lucky on the one with Fury, and not without, and opposite on Warlord. A longer parse would probably even it out to around 6-7 dps difference.

    Pact of Dread is one reason, but the cooldown of it is around 30 seconds, and the crit difference on the pet would arguably not make any difference of the proc of Pact of Dread. Hand of Doom blocks Pact of Dread from proccing from pet hits as well as your own. I took care to test this too, and even in a string of three crits from the pet while Hand of Doom was up, Pact of Dread did not proc. While the very first crit after Hand of Doom was done, Pact of Dread proced.
    Last edited by Shax84; 6th September 2014 at 20:22.

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    I think Matic0r3 has a very valid point. In a FoG based feat build where you still want Pact of the Earth Walker there are simply no viable alternatives to Fury of the Underworld in order to go down the havoc tree, especially now that the feat actually does something. The same way noone discusses whether Pact of Dread is worth it, you simply need it to get pact of the Earthwalker.

    In a Shockstrike based build, though, things may not be that simple.

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