You guys joined the wrong raids
if there is something good in your post is that it made me laugh!!
t3 is still the most fun raid in this game. of course some fights can be frustrating when you play with people that doesn't even know how to watch a castbar, but also in pvp you need to check what your opponents are doing, don't you think??
"in the depths of a mind insane fantasy and reality are the same"
Yawgmoth (Ranger) - Nyxathid (Necro) - Yixlid (HoX) - Kaltas (DT) - Heung (BS) - Teysa (HoX) - Gatzu (Guard) - Krovax (Ranger) - Hurkyl (Barb) - Vedalken (PoM)
May be you don't know, but PUGs kill all T4 bosses and first T5 boss
Even T5 raid can be fun with right players
I agree with post above, you guys just joined the wrong raids
T3 is a joke compared to when it was first released. No one was having any fun in the first 60 days it launched, hence only one guild on US servers only trickled gear until they changed it 3x. Not everyone enjoys raiding, and that's all the game became about (IE gear based), which was my point.
There used to be a time you simply could make a character, get to 80, buy some crafted armor, and be instantly competitive and have fun without any grind.
Doomsayer 2008