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Thread: Combojumping - Exploit or not?

  1. #61

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quistan View Post
    Talking about ethics in a videogame is just pathetic.
    In every game on every corner you'll find some people who are cheating or exploiting; in Age of Conan it is a part of the business, wrecked up code make things like combo jump, combo skip, teleport etcetera possible. These things are broken game mechanics, they are here, peeps are going to use it... whats the problem? Obviously Funcom is not able to fix it so better sweep it under the mat and call it "feature".
    Problem is, that games are expecting to be "fun". Though subjective, it applies to board games and others too. Try applying the same "cheating is fine" arguments to poker and dice games or even chess and you should notice how wrong certain arguments are. If games are not fun, people are not playing them. If people are not playing, the cheaters loose victims (loss), the company looses income (loss) and the normal players loose people they might have needed to experience other parts of the game too.

    For minor offences you would have a point with the "feature", but i would not call combojumping effects minor. And if funcom even takes it as a feature and applies it to their internal "balance" calculations (if they have them), it makes matters even worse and results in crazy nerfs and tweaks (some of we have even seen already) to classes. All the time leaving the honest players (the majority!) behind and frustrated.
    Also they would have to include it in the tutorial and explain how to do it. But then they should change the name of the game, too. Because it will be Age of Bunnies and not Age of Conan.
    Last edited by Kurt2013; 23rd March 2015 at 13:42.

  2. #62

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    'fun' is different to everyone

    attention whores and griefers will have a lot of fun with cheats. its up to funcom to extablish the rules and make them respected. for me combojumping is like going 105km/h in a 100km/h zone...

  3. #63

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    Quote Originally Posted by camilleboucquill View Post
    'fun' is different to everyone

    attention whores and griefers will have a lot of fun with cheats. its up to funcom to extablish the rules and make them respected. for me combojumping is like going 105km/h in a 100km/h zone...
    for me combojumpng just shows the players awareness to exploit something and giving a sh1t on not playing decent. how far is the step to then use speedhack, comber and whatever?

    what did my mom tell me when i was younger: dont smoke weed, next step is consume crack.

  4. #64

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    Combojumping is allowed by a not intended bug in combat mechanic.

    This said, you can't call people using this bug "cheater".
    There is a big difference between using a third party program to allow something not allowed by the game itself, and using what the game offers, whatever it is intented or not.

    Funcom has not even expressed an official point of view, so at the moment combo-jumping cannot even be described as exploit, or "exploiter" who use it.

    I just realized how it works like one week ago after all this discussion started, and I don't plan to use it and try to master it, cause I consider it an exploit; but this is my opinion, not Funcom one, so I'll not put shame on anyone using it.

    Anyway all this tragi-comedy talking about combo jumping is trash imo.
    I don't really see it beeing game-breaking.
    Maybe in good hands when mastered could give some advantage, but at the moment I'm playing a different game, or I don't see anyone looking spans above others by just the use of it.

    I'd still want it to be fixed if Funcom finds a way to fix it without screwing other stuff, that is the thing I'm most scared of; much better they leave things as they are then risking.

    I see other PvP bugs as more critical: number one at the moment is JS raid bug. Then they should improve latency and server stability, and fix collisions with environment (so annoying beeing stucked after kb or fear, or finish under map).
    Combat System is the best thing in this game, even with combo-jumping hoppers around.
    Last edited by Korando-AoC; 24th March 2015 at 13:13.
    Retired nab.. once it was Korando (PvP 10 BS), Andromaeda (PvP 10 Sin), Calore (PvP 10 Demo) and minions...

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    I find it funny that people brand this as exploiting and getting unfair advantage and yet at the same time do constant bunny jumping on their casters, suddenly changing dirrection while jumping "exploiting" server lag so that its almost impossible to land hit on them. And somehow that is intended mechanic and o.k. to do. Or just stand at rocks in JS map jumping in water at first glance from someone, somehow that is moral and o.k, while this, that does take some skill to land in pvp, is cheating. Instants that can be fired off on move while nobody can catch you are also o.k. Cmon guys first fix issues on class you play before you start throwing sticks and stones and than you can talk about fairness and morality.
    If this is ever fixed it should be fixed in a way that penalize any jumping (or sprint jumping) with energy drain so it should equally hit casters and melees.

  6. #66

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    Quote Originally Posted by viroku View Post
    I find it funny that people brand this as exploiting and getting unfair advantage and yet at the same time do constant bunny jumping on their casters, suddenly changing dirrection while jumping "exploiting" server lag so that its almost impossible to land hit on them. And somehow that is intended mechanic and o.k. to do. Or just stand at rocks in JS map jumping in water at first glance from someone, somehow that is moral and o.k, while this, that does take some skill to land in pvp, is cheating. Instants that can be fired off on move while nobody can catch you are also o.k. Cmon guys first fix issues on class you play before you start throwing sticks and stones and than you can talk about fairness and morality.
    If this is ever fixed it should be fixed in a way that penalize any jumping (or sprint jumping) with energy drain so it should equally hit casters and melees.
    Do you really listen to that hypocrite Hopsing? because its not ppl, its actually him...

  7. #67

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    I realize that this subject is a controversial one you'd all like an answer to. However, what may or may not be considered an "exploit" isn't appropriate discussion for the forums. If you believe something to be an abuse of game mechanics, please report it to help.funcom.com or by using the in-game /petition command. It will be investigated on a case by case basis.

    That said, while this discussion may be now closed, we'll move on to investigating this internally on our end.

    Thanks!
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