I see reading comprehension is scarce on these forums...
I never claimed a fair bit of statements you're attributing to me:
A) I never said I'm struggling with PvP. I'm not great by any means but I can hold my own. More importantly, all my statements are from a general point of view about the barbarian's class balance situation, not what happens to me when I use it.
B) I never said those are my two preferred builds.
The second was just a theoretic example in reply to Chaman post, also linking to previous posts in this thread, claiming you can have everything on the barb and achieve amazing unmissable burst using AtG + Decap buffed with cooldowns from reaver tree while also having amazing survivability, amazing anti-CC, amazing everything. I simply showed that just to reach the Haste buff in Reaver while keeping the anti-CC from general you'd need to drop a lot of other feats. It's certainly not a build I'd ever use.
The first was the build I was using to test post-patch changes with a full berserker build. That obviously gave me restraints, like having to spec Devastation, Eyes of Madness, Decapitation and Swarm Fighter since those are the feats who got changed (duh).
C) I also never said the first build is the maximum dps you can reach with a barb. What I said is that the build gives you *nearly* the maximum UNCONDITIONAL damage buff you can get , with the *nearly* being due to the lack of Reave which I also explicitly mentioned.
That, too, was in response to the objection that an average 2k hit on a parse is actually very high because parsing whole minis at a time will inevitably bring down the average damage. If you're so worried about averages on long term parses, then obviously flat always-on damage increases are way better than short-term cooldowns since the cooldowns, being only available comparatively rarely, will end up having a lower impact on the total parse. Even assuming you're explicitly saving them to only be used on Decap hits, stuff like Eyes of Madness or Too Many to Count would only be available once every several Decap hits, while the always-on increases improve the damage of every single Decap. Only Haste is on a short enough CD to be used on a significant percentage of Decaps, unless your "play style" is to unload all your CDs to kill a lowbie with the burst then go in hide for the next 90 seconds.
That said, there's at least one thing on which I can agree:
That's exactly one of the problems here: people are claiming you can have everything in one package with the barb, using some sort of super-secret build using 120 feat points. The other problem is the ridiculous numbers being bandied about, but I guess we've moving away from that since we've shifted from "Decap regularly crits for 4.5k, OP, nerf!!" to "Decap + ATG can combine for an average 4k cumulative burst, OP, nerf!", so there's at least some progress here.you cant have all. if you wanna have all anti cc you need to live with less dps
If you'd bothered to read my whole previous post, you'd already know I'm fully aware of the possibility of going Reverse Swing + H&A in a berserker spec. However, once again, you're mixing stuff and claiming you can have everything where this is simply not true.
To follow your build advice, starting from the first build I linked, let's see: to get the five points you need for Reave you need to drop Lethality + Agile Mind. That results in an increase of +18% weapon damage (you gain +25% from Reave but you lose +7% from Lethality). Then I'm assuming you want to drop neither Swarm Fighter (you'd lose the +20%) nor Rampage (you'd lose the +775 CR) since you' re making a big fuss of that build being "low dps".
That leaves only one possibility: to get the 10 points you need for RS + H&A you need to drop the Unstoppable / Blood Frenzy / Welcoming Death line. Then, you also need to move 2-3 points from Devastation to Atrocity, resulting in something like this, give or take a couple points:
http://goo.gl/5MYfYN
Now let's see. We've gained a +18% fixed unconditional weapon damage bonus, which will certainly improve the average Decap burst (with or without AtG). We've also gained a conditional +36% weapon damage bonus (from RS), however this comes at a cost: we lost some anti-CC (AM), we lost some survivability (Unstoppable), but most of all we also lost another source of very significant conditional damage: Blood Frenzy (from when you're low on health) and the +45% weapon damage bonus from Welcoming Death (from when others are low on health). It's not at all clear you'd get better average Decap results from RS rather than WD since you can certainly control having WD available on your Decap burst by using Decap as the finisher blow (or, more subtly, assuming for whatever reason your current main target is not the guy at <35% health, you could do a quick white hit on the guy low on health to trigger the buff, then use Decap on your main target). There's also something to be said for having your max burst available exactly when you need it - i.e. whenever you're trying to finish off someone.
Another problem of your build, in the context of the discussion I was having, is that to max out your burst you might need to use a full SB combo before you can use Decap + AtG (depending whether the buff is up or not), otherwise you lose the +36% from RS. One of the claims to which I was replying is that one of the things which make Decap + AtG so OP is that no preparation is needed (Chaman's post, which also states that the 2.5 seconds of preparation needed for necro bursts can be problematic). Obviously that's not the case anymore with your build since you DO need preparation to achieve optimal results.
All of you here need to pick and choose a single build which supposedly makes the Decap + ATG combo OP, otherwise all you're doing is to continuosly move the goal post by piling all the various advantages from every possible build into one single unbeatable package which isn't available in reality. You also need to explain why Decap + ATG is OP *NOW* but it wasn't before the patch, given that ATG hasn't changed and the increase in Decap's damage was certainly not dramatic.
Finally, you'd also need to explain how all of this relates to AM which was the original subject of the thread.