PVP Unchained Questions

[Suctum]

Thank you for explaining. The other point is that people assume that I am saying make all CC's like this, when that is not true. I believe like we had in the past, there should be instant cast cc's and also casted CC's for caster classes and lengthy animation cc's for your melee, which was how it was in the past. Even WoW has created a cc system like this.

What we have now is a circus act for crowd control. I remember back before the CC changes, players were capable of locking down 1 target while fighting another, which created for possible 2 v 1 scenarios.

3 and 4 vs 1 on some classes, I remember being able to fight 3 or more at a time and win through movement and kiting, CCing on the move, and being able to cast AoE with multiple people locked down. And yes, for the most part most roots where not instant, so the tactic would be stun, attack someone else, root the stunned person right before it came off, finish off the previos victim, then finish off the person CCed lock. With enough LoS and movement, you could take out multiple people until they rez zerged you to death.

Now with every class not only have a free break but free CC resistances, (which compounds even more of an issue for locking down Guards and Demos who have already high Stun resists), and the fact almost every CC is a turn to stone 1 second cast, the chances of fighting anything more than 2:1 are not very good, even for a seasoned player.

[viroku]

cc locking and instant ccs would be so bad with today gear. Its great fun to be cc locked and die before you are able to do anything... yeee bring more fun like that :P
Also speaking of cc and cc locking as skill is laughable

[Religolibri]

I'm actually satisfied with actuall CC mechanics, besides of course, linebreaker, which I swear rangers don't need (rending strike dot neither).

[-Khramps-]

3 and 4 vs 1 on some classes, I remember being able to fight 3 or more at a time and win through movement and kiting, CCing on the move, and being able to cast AoE with multiple people locked down. And yes, for the most part most roots where not instant, so the tactic would be stun, attack someone else, root the stunned person right before it came off, finish off the previos victim, then finish off the person CCed lock. With enough LoS and movement, you could take out multiple people until they rez zerged you to death.

Now with every class not only have a free break but free CC resistances, (which compounds even more of an issue for locking down Guards and Demos who have already high Stun resists), and the fact almost every CC is a turn to stone 1 second cast, the chances of fighting anything more than 2:1 are not very good, even for a seasoned player.

I was referring to 2v1 (good players) not kids that have 1 arm and drool hanging off the side of their lips while wearing pvp 4 gear.

Also, I've never seen you do a single 4 v 1 in my entire life. I don't think even Argurious was capable of doing that and killing all 4 of them, but he was capable of holding them off for a while.

[-Khramps-]

cc locking and instant ccs would be so bad with today gear. Its great fun to be cc locked and die before you are able to do anything... yeee bring more fun like that :P
Also speaking of cc and cc locking as skill is laughable

What is laughable is that you're afraid of it because you clearly can't do it and struggle at AoC as it is. You enjoy bashing each other back and fourth missing half your combos while sporting T4 gear and saying you're better then the other guy.

If you can't defend yourself against CC locking when most classes have 2 CC breaks, then you clearly shouldn't be playing any MMO's for PVP.

[Gkahn]

What is laughable is that you're afraid of it because you clearly can't do it and struggle at AoC as it is. You enjoy bashing each other back and fourth missing half your combos while sporting T4 gear and saying you're better then the other guy.

If you can't defend yourself against CC locking when most classes have 2 CC breaks, then you clearly shouldn't be playing any MMO's for PVP.

your kind of a d!@k bro lmao but your makeing alot of good points here not gona lie.

[viroku]

What is laughable is that you're afraid of it because you clearly can't do it and struggle at AoC as it is. You enjoy bashing each other back and fourth missing half your combos while sporting T4 gear and saying you're better then the other guy.

If you can't defend yourself against CC locking when most classes have 2 CC breaks, then you clearly shouldn't be playing any MMO's for PVP.

Dont have t4 gear, dont miss my combos and im capable of killing someone without using cc's.
But anyway fail post with silly ideas

[Spartek]

Just admit it people.

NOW aoc = YOu cc me I cc you, I break CC you Break CC rinse repeat, till one of us has no more cool downs. Yes this game is now gear and cool down based. What little skill left won't really matter.

Any fight, any scenario in pvp right now is all about CC CC break CC break cc. no one can do anything without cc.

The worst part is you can't even fight more than 1 player at a time because the game is so unbalanced. Unless he is pvp 1 fresh 80 blue.

Or else its just going to be a I cc you, You CC me. Movements? Hardly. Oh yea Stagger. The worst mechanic in game that just got buffed since 3 years ago. Now you get staggered from the side and front because the buggy ass game.

This is how its like. You get 13 sec snared from necro pet. since you can't get snared during this time, after 13 second is over you get hit by melee and get 5sec stagger. that's 18second total you being snared... how stupid.

[Suctum]

I was referring to 2v1 (good players) not kids that have 1 arm and drool hanging off the side of their lips while wearing pvp 4 gear.

Also, I've never seen you do a single 4 v 1 in my entire life. I don't think even Argurious was capable of doing that and killing all 4 of them, but he was capable of holding them off for a while.

Plenty of times 4v1, but sure, they were almost all crap players. Decent players you could do 2v1 but then again some of that was luck. The real difference was in small groups combat where 3 or 4 could fight a much higher number and still win.

Current game it is extremely difficult to fight less than even numbers because the way ccs work and the amount of damage people can do now vs. then.

[-Khramps-]

Dont have t4 gear, dont miss my combos and im capable of killing someone without using cc's.
But anyway fail post with silly ideas

Anybody here that is relatively experienced at AoC is laughing at you right now.