I hate cyclone 9 on the barb because there is major lag between the 2nd directional attack and the combo finisher. It makes it almost faster to pull off a cyclone 10 (which does way more damage) In pvp both are really but cyclone 9 really needs that fix asap. (and it has been like this sense I remember hitting 80 and funcom still hasn't fixed it, maybe they just didn't know about it)