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    So do the guard's GD, conqs breach, and bear's physical wracks stack? and/or duration stacks? thanks.

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    No and no....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RingOfSet View Post
    So do the guard's GD, conqs breach, and bear's physical wracks stack? and/or duration stacks? thanks.
    Guard's Guard Destroyer, Conq's Breach and BS's Rune of Aggression are physical Ruins, not Wracks (they are removed by Steadfast Faith and not by Resolve). They do not stack with each other : the timer is only reset on the most recent application.

    (The physical wracks are applied by Conq's Feint, BS's manifestation of the forest (I think) and by Sin (grim corruption), ranger, and necro)

    BTW Guard's guard Destroyer is 20s long while other ruins are 15s long. For better debuffing a conq shouldn't use breach while a Guard Destroyer still has over 15s left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ieronon View Post
    Guard's Guard Destroyer, Conq's Breach and BS's Rune of Aggression are physical Ruins, not Wracks (they are removed by Steadfast Faith and not by Resolve). They do not stack with each other : the timer is only reset on the most recent application.

    (The physical wracks are applied by Conq's Feint, BS's manifestation of the forest (I think) and by Sin (grim corruption), ranger, and necro)

    BTW Guard's guard Destroyer is 20s long while other ruins are 15s long. For better debuffing a conq shouldn't use breach while a Guard Destroyer still has over 15s left.
    Thats too bad.Thank you for the detailed explanation. Do you know the cool down for conq's breach and/ bear's physical ruin debuff?

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    Conqs breach has 45sec CD. Use to be exploitable with an AA combo.
    BS applies the ruin after casting rune of agression (45sec cd) and procs randomly while hitting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vehl View Post
    Conqs breach has 45sec CD. Use to be exploitable with an AA combo.
    BS applies the ruin after casting rune of agression (45sec cd) and procs randomly while hitting.
    Too bad. Thought guards might be of use here but 2 conqs 2 bears should have this locked up.

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    Guards tank
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vehl View Post
    Guards tank
    Lots of things can tank in this game apparently, and sometimes better then guards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RingOfSet View Post
    So do the guard's GD, conqs breach, and bear's physical wracks stack? and/or duration stacks? thanks.
    this is what we're dealing with.. and people actually think he's credible. all you have to do is a single raid to notice this, i thought you were supposed to know something about the game judging by your stupid posts where you claim to know everything about guards and dts, but you didn't know this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RingOfSet View Post
    Too bad. Thought guards might be of use here but 2 conqs 2 bears should have this locked up.
    Anyway in a raid configuration where 24 players are on the same target there has to be some redundancy in debuffing.
    Now you don't always have 2 conqs + 2 bears affected to the same target.

    Also a brute conq should always prefer to let bears, S&B guards and carnie conqs apply the ruin before thinking about switching to do it, just because those classes will apply it anyway to get some other buff in the process (while breach does nothing special for brutes and thus is a waste of time if the Ruin is already on).
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