Originally Posted by
woodcarver74
Well, since they clearly have stated they dont have Resources to revamp anything in the forseen future i Guess the question is not worthy of mutch consideration.
I must admitt i dissagree With you on the statement that vom is what makes a dt so OP. I played since the start, a lott. And already before the AA^s got implemented only the good guards and conqs had a chance of keeping up With me on aggro.(thid was ofc afther the rewamp that lifted the dt from the real ounderdogg lvl we had for a loong time)I ofc already had a good lvl of gear at that moment.
I agree With noite, most of the big aas the dt have in topp rank is usless, i do use dread lord and infusion for some fights, but it would not work well if i didnt have all the dt setts to choose from, and Close to full t4 sett. But remove my vom and i would still outaggro almost anyone. I just had to remember to use crit and hit rating big pots all the time, and tweak a bit more to tiger accesories or simmilar.
The poblem is that some ppl dont seem to realise something. Its not like we got t4,khitai and so on dropped into Our hands,(now at this moment it might be true, but not 2-3 years ago) i have worked trough all the setts from full t1 , the t2 i have trashed, and are considering to buy it again for vanity, thats how mutch some ppl have played. If i bring my dt for a khitai hm or a t1, t2 raid i will ofc be insanely owerpowered, not just because of the gear but also because i know the class well. I often want to go for these raids, and try to, when my short term memory alows, to inform this to the raidleader, and offer to go dps so the New tanks can have fun. If he needs me to tank sure, but i preffer to dps or be offtank.
On the dps theme, i have always found physical dps gear to work better for dt than the wisdom gear, specialy because of the aggro problem. And that high lvl of dps is not so usefull if you move the zodiak all the time or die in every fight. If you have Power, you must also have Control. Better to be on topp 1/4 of dps list and have controll and usefulness than to topp it and cause problems or die.
I agree on the statement earlyer abouth dread speccs. you dont topp parser With a dread specced, not in t3 and t4, you simply cant go With that mutch dps just With gear and still be tanking in a usefull way. as a dps offtank or pure dps role yes sure. But not wile vielding dread. You dont gain dps without giving up survivability, it is a Balance, all the time.
This is ofc a lott of my personal experience With dt, i know some will disagree.
At the moment i use 5 different speccs on dt, 2 With dread specced, both ment for t4 and a few Selected bosses in t3. The other 3 speccs are different grades of dps speccs, ment for different lvl of Dungeons and raids, almost anything below t3. but also for some fights in t3, 1 is pure dps specc, ment for talisman, tiger and some magical items, like the vile cape, sword and talisman from t3, the rest tiger gear and dps accesories ( might trow in the t4 chest at hard parts) i can still tank everything up and including w1, and all trash and a few bosses in t2. if im focused and in a good Group.
(Id say i have ca 1200-1300 dps outputt in the dps specc, With more im useless since i ruin for the tank. and yes i do mix in hatedecrease gear, i have to)
Dont judge the dt just from one situation, in some situasjons it perform awesomely, in another it wont do so well but a guard is better. Remember that a dt have to switch gear constantly, from boss to boss, from instance to instance, yes somethimes i even switch gear and aas during fights, like at thoth.
Anyway now im ranting, i agree that if they are going to change vom, they have to get the other aas working. I would say max change could be a smal decrease in the amount of procs it do. But then the have to make like scarab Knight and blood shroud etc work, in what situasion is bloodshroud even remotely usefull, transference of stamina to mana. the few bosses that drain mana maybe, i have never felt the need. Not Close.
At the moment i feel the tank classes are well balanced, theyt work far better together than they have at any moment before. Only in pvp i can se a problem, but its not a class problem, its a gear problem.