Baneric / Munok / Johnkruk / Tomjones / Elgranorgo
US first kills - Arch Lector Zaal, Bat of Nerd Rage, Emperor, Cloud, and Entity.
2k is a good base number for DT's. I use 2k because writing out 1987dps takes to damn long.
It's your typical reasoning to point out small things apposed to the big picture.
Big picture being: Guards work their ass off to keep up with DT's while DT's barely try.
Go to the corner now and be quiet.
Guards: Schou/Schoujr, DT: Mycroch, Conq: Kenfast, Barb: Sonofcronus, Sin's: Crazyassin/Daggerdick, Hox: Scorchnburn, Demo: Touchofdeath, Tos: Enslaveu, BS: Meballs
Sooo many opinoins and most of them don't even play the guard class.
Or if they do, they don't play them much, yet still have an opinion.
Here it is.
Guards can still tank, and can still hold good aggro. That isn't the argument for all those fools who think thats what I'm saying.
This is the argument, DT's are way more OP than guards on aggro. They can simply do combo's while also popping an irritate "if that" to get aggro back when needed. What a guard has to do is HS,COA,STall,Irritate,Volcanic Rage, Powerhouse, and Ardent BC. "Not all at once like some noob is going to try and flame me for" I'm making a point to all the tools that a guard uses just to stay on the aggro table with that of a DT who pops irritate and maybe a SOC if he is feeling up for it.
I don't mind the amount of effort it takes, thats why I like the guard class "mr hox player". But when I work my ass for aggro and aggro still belongs to the DT, thats when I have an issue with it.
Guards should own aggro, DT's should be rite their with us, and Conqs should be amaizng offtanks with the versatility of either or.
Rite now, DT's own the aggro, guards make good offtanks, and conq's do aswell.
DT's and Conqs are all you need for a good raid, Guards are obsolete! This is the reason I'm saying they need some love!
Guards: Schou/Schoujr, DT: Mycroch, Conq: Kenfast, Barb: Sonofcronus, Sin's: Crazyassin/Daggerdick, Hox: Scorchnburn, Demo: Touchofdeath, Tos: Enslaveu, BS: Meballs
so please link some t4 fights that aren't zodiac or projections that a dt does 2k while tanking. if that's the base number you should have easy access to many parses.
schou you're an alright guy but you are exaggeration extraordinaire. one week you're aggro champ and no one in game can beat you and next week you make dt whine thread.
listen... I agree that at the moment guards bring less to the table than dts and conqs. as a conq I'm constantly QQing to raid lead that I want to tank instead of dps cause why not have your tank do 3x the dps a guard can do? I just don't agree with you that guard aggro is nerfed. hell, we got guards who lock aggro off of dts popping taunts in defensive stance doing 1700 dps on zodiac.
Baneric / Munok / Johnkruk / Tomjones / Elgranorgo
US first kills - Arch Lector Zaal, Bat of Nerd Rage, Emperor, Cloud, and Entity.
I've been playing a guard for a little over a month now you're right but I've played a pom and bs for over 4 years now and have raided everything from yakh to memory cloud.
Its my opinion that, at least recently, guards have really lost their niche. They may tank JUST as well as a DT but which would you rather have in your raid? Something that tanks and does 500 DPS or something that does the same exact tanking..and does 2000 DPS?
Regardless if schou is right or wrong the central premise is correct, guards really don't have much of a role in raids anymore.